In this episode, Australian hosts Jason and Joelle chat with Hayden Fricke, organisational psychologist, Managing Director at Steople, and Chair of the Australian College of Organisational Psychologists. Hayden shares his observations about why leaders often struggle to care for their own mental health, and offers suggestions and strategies to help leaders who may not be in a position to change the systems of work impacting the mental health of their employees and themselves. https://haydenfricke.com/book/ www.steople.com.au